Germany’s Thilo Sarrazin Is “Racist” For Pointing out that Muslims Don’t Integrate

When Thilo Sarrazin, a German banker previously mentioned on Un:dhimmi here, commented about the status of immigrant groups in Germany, he drew a lot of criticism and started a firestorm of debate.  On the one hand, his proclamation that Jews have a “Jewish gene” hearkens back to the dark days of Nazism, and the response was understandably negative.  I am not a biologist, but I doubt that this “gene” exists. If he meant to say that the Jewish people are genetically linked to one another, then that would at least make sense.  It’s possible that his phraseology was just a little off.

Mr. Sarrazin also commented about the resistance of Muslims to integrate into German society and their propensity towards violence, and in those two things he was right on the money.  The BBC News quotes him as saying  “most of the cultural and economic problems are concentrated in a group of the five to six million immigrants from Muslim countries.”  I would like to find statistics on that, but have not been able to nail them down as yet.

From the New York Times:

Though Condemned, German Author Opens Debate

BERLIN — When a German banker and former government official spoke publicly about a unique “Jewish gene,” when he attacked Islam as a source of violence and stunted development, when he espoused genetic theories that evoked the fright of the Nazi past, the political leadership here quickly condemned him as racist and called for him to be fired.

But Thilo Sarrazin, an executive with the central bank, or Bundesbank, and former senator of finance from Berlin, has not emerged as the marginalized hate-monger the initial condemnation foreshadowed. His book, “Germany Does Away With Itself,” which laments the growing number of Muslim immigrants, arguing they are “dumbing down” society, was released Monday and is already in its fourth printing, with sales expected to exceed 150,000 copies, according to his publisher.

Mr. Sarrazin has sparked a painful public discussion here that has highlighted one of the nation’s most vexing challenges: How to overcome what is widely seen as a failed immigration policy that over decades did little to support and help integrate the nearly 20 percent of the population who have an immigrant background and that has stoked anti-Islamic sentiment and hostility.

The surprisingly warm reception of Mr. Sarrazin’s book and his unrepentant posture have also provoked something less tangible, but perhaps more troublesome for policy makers here eager to keep the radical right from gaining a foothold as they have in other parts of Europe: Under cover of speaking truth to power, Mr. Sarrazin tried to legitimize hate speech, said his critics.

One of the most telling signs of the growing disconnect between the communities, officials here said, is the observation that the grandchildren of immigrants are less likely to integrate in society and less likely to even apply for citizenship than previous generations, creating an ethnic underclass in education and employment. Residents from immigrant families are twice as likely as ethnic Germans to be unemployed.

“This issue is now more important for Germany than the economy,” said Wolfgang Nowak, former senior adviser to the previous chancellor, Gerhard Schröder, and the head of Deutsche Bank’s International Forum who argues that Mr. Sarrazin has done his country a favor by forcing the topic to the top of the political agenda and crashing through the barriers of political correctness.

“The condemnation of his book is an automatic reflex of a generation raised after Hitler,” he said.

Even some who found his approach offensive said that Mr. Sarrazin had “addressed a problem that will remain long after the waves of outrage have subsided: the enormous integration deficit of the Muslim minority in Germany, or at least of disturbingly large parts of it,” read an article in the center-left newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung.

In a newspaper interview published the day before the book was released, Mr. Sarrazin also spoke of a Jewish gene, a reference to recent studies showing Jews share many genes inherited from the ancestral population that lived in the Middle East long ago. He was criticized by everyone, including the chancellor, Angela Merkel.

His party wants to kick him out and the bank is considering firing him. On Thursday the board of the bank voted to ask Germany’s president to dismiss Mr. Sarrazin from the board, and Chancellor Merkel applauded the decision.Mr. Sarrazin’s stance, and the traction it has gained, has alarmed many in part because he is not a member of the extreme right, but is a longtime member of the center-left Social Democrats and the former top financial official for the city of Berlin, one of the centers of the immigrant community.

“If he were an extremist, no one would pay attention,” said Hatice Akyün, a writer who has debated Mr. Sarrazin and condemned his theories of innate inferiority in immigrants. “He is a Social Democrat. You cannot do what he is doing, not in this country. You cannot give this kind of thinking a democratic base.”

Ms. Akyün, whose father came to Germany from Turkey in 1961, said that the debate often comes down to the difference between integration, which she said immigrants and their families accept, even desire, and assimilation, which they reject.

“The only chance for acceptance in German society is total assimilation, don’t hold onto our traditions,” said Maxim Biller, whose own family moved to Germany from Prague when he was a child.

Mr. Sarrazin, who sports small round glasses and has a stern face topped by a shock of mostly white hair, said that he wanted to highlight what he described as the drain on Germany of its immigrant class.

In his book, he criticized Islam and blamed Muslim immigrants for refusing to integrate. He also blamed Germany for being too generous with its social benefits, which he said attracted immigrants looking for handouts. “No other religion in Europe is so demanding and no other migration group depends so much on the social welfare state and is so much connected to criminality,” he wrote in one passage.

Germany has had a difficult time coming to terms with its immigrant population. Next year will mark the 50th anniversary of the guest worker program that brought large numbers of migrants, mostly Turks. Originally the plan was for the workers to return, though that idea evaporated in the 1970s when Germany allowed workers’ families to move here, said Gunter Piening, commissioner in the Senate office of integration and migration for the city of Berlin.

“The German philosophy was, ‘We are not a migration country,’ ” he said. “There were migrants, but there was no migrant policy.”

It was only in 2005 that Germany acknowledged that it had become a destination country, a shift that was not accompanied by a practical plan, Mr. Piening said. That has slowly begun to change, he said.

This month, for example, Berlin revamped its secondary education system because it recognized that children of immigrants were “getting an education which was good for nothing, a dead end.” Steps have been taken to also allow Muslims to be buried without coffins — the custom for Muslims is to be wrapped in a shroud — a small measure if ultimately adopted, but one that would nonetheless help make Muslims feel more welcomed, he said.

It is not, however, entirely benevolent as German officials recognize they will need immigrants in coming years. According to a recent survey by the German Chambers of Industry and Commerce there will be six million fewer Germans of working age by 2030.

It seems that Mr. Sarrazin is correct in at least some of his conclusions as he calls a spade a spade and speaks the truth about the failure of Muslims to integrate into German society.  If the Muslim population refuses to integrate into the general German society, and if refusal to integrate (by any group) leads to problems within German society as a whole, then it is certainly a debate worth having!



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12 Responses to “Germany’s Thilo Sarrazin Is “Racist” For Pointing out that Muslims Don’t Integrate”

  • DDM says:

    Sorry that they even THINK they will NEED immigrants! However, if so, there are PLENTY of Buddhists (Myanmar, Tibetan, etc. refugees), Hindus, Central Americans, South Americans, Filipinos ready to come. Stop the stupidity and say NO to muslim immigration!

  • Un:dhimmi says:

    You’re correct in your assertions, Star. It is a debate worth having, yet you will notice that there is an irrefutable pattern forming when it comes to anyone posing legitimate questions about Muslims or Muslim initiatives; and the reactions of political élites and the mainstream media of the ‘international community’.

    Irrefutable facts become ‘racism’ (since when was Islam a race?), valid criticism becomes ‘intolerance’, or, that most wrong-headed of labels, ‘Islamophobia’ (it is perfectly rational to fear something or someone that is threatening you).

    There is beginning to be a rather sinister predictability to this.

  • I look forward to reading the book. His comments on social benefits have largely been eclipsed in Germany by the more sensational aspects, such as his view on Turks and Jews. Regarding the Jews, there are some Jewish genetic markers such as the “Cohen” gene shared by I think around 2/3rds of the worlds Cohens, but there is no Jewish “gene” as such.

    In order to reform immigration, which Germany does need due to their large social apparatus and below replacement birth rate, they need to start with their social system. Right now, there are clear incentives for uneducated migrants to move here. There are not very many advantages for highly educated foreigners. The result, is that the majority of people that immigrate here, many by marriage under family rights laws, do not have the education level they need in Germany’s economy. This means they are assured a better quality of life if they come here and DO NOT work. They will make more money on the dole than working in low- mid-skilled labour positions. End this socialist paradise for the workshy and uneducated, and a lot of the problem will take care of itself.

    As for ‘racism’ in Germany. The vast majority of Germans of all political stripes agree with him, but Germans are not ready for a public debate on such things. Way too much baggage here, even if around 80 – 90% of Germans I know think he went too easy on them.

  • kafantaris says:

    The same utilitarian argument made Thilo Sarrazin have been used against other minorities in other countries, including the United States. Fortunately, one’s worth as a human being goes beyond his usefulness in a commercial society.

    Nonetheless, leaders of minorities around the world have a responsibility to further the education of their members. Moreover, each country has a responsibility to remove ALL roadblocks to minority education. Indeed, even with all the doors open, learning is long and tedious, and with no shortcuts for anyone.

    Families that have invested in the education of their children know this, and also know that the desire must be planted early on in the child. Since many parents themselves do not see the significance of learning, this important ingredient of education is often missing. Community and church leaders can help in this regard.

    In the end, it is all worth it as an informed human being is good for all of us, not just for those that invested in his education. Regarding his race or national origin, it is of concern to one no.

    As for Sarrazin, like all bigots, he should be ignored. Those who think that perhaps he means well for Germany, should reflect that he has offered no solutions, whatsoever, with his criticism. This is the prime indication that his intentions are not honorable. By themselves then, his comments are both inflammatory and racist.

  • It is a complicated debate, but one that Germany needs to have. As I mentioned earlier, I think Germany’s social system ensures migration of those least able to adapt to society. It also ensures that some migrants will choose not to integrate because integration means working and unskilled workers make more on the dole than they ever could in housekeeping. (And this is obviously passed on to the children, whose prospects for employment will also be quite dim.)

    That doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a point. My wife works in a school in a district that is about 95% non-German. Many of the parents don’t speak a word of German and have to communicate to the school through their 7 or 8 year old. The very first question she was asked on her first day at the school was “Are you Moslem?” And this is coming from pre-teens. Then of course, when she said no, anytime she tried to bring the class to order was met with complaints of “Hey! What do you have against Moslems?” Many of the students will not listen to female teachers, and of course, their parents blame their failing grades on the school, or the teachers, and never on their children. Many of the children also do not speak German very well, which is a key sign that you will end up on the dole. (As I said, you can make much more money on the dole than you can cleaning and washing dishes.) Many teachers cannot cope with the aggressive behaviour of some of the pupils, and naturally, the turnover rate is quite high. Furthermore, in a country where many won’t even say the word “Jew” because of their history, the word is used as an epithet meaning “Ar**h*l*” amongst children as young as 11 or 12. When the students were told time and time again that calling someone “Jew” as a way to insult them is not acceptable in Germany, some of them switched and started using the term “Zionist.” (How do you think the students and parents would have reacted if they found out one of the teachers was Jewish? Would this person be able to continue employment there? I seriously doubt it.)

    As I said, Germany’s horrendously backwards socialist policies regarding work and welfare ensure that the immigrants most likely to come here are the ones who are the least likely to integrate. Change this, and you fix a lot. It’s extremely complicated, but I’m going to get the book and read it. I’ll let you all know what I find out.

  • Un:dhimmi says:

    @Kafantaris
    You make the typical and instinctively leftist ‘why can’t we all just get along’ response by moving to delegitimise the one making the argument – and furthermore, in deploying terms such as ‘utilitarian’ and ‘bigoted’, without bothering yourself with the need for niceties such as substantiation – you encapsulate the left’s way of doing business.

    And if, as you say, it is the responsibility of minority leaders to further the education of their members – what happens (as in this case), when they don’t? What happens, when those same leaders agitate and organise against their host societies?

    What would you recommend then?

  • StarCMC says:

    kafantaris, you said:

    “In the end, it is all worth it as an informed human being is good for all of us, not just for those that invested in his education. ”

    While conservatives would agree with this statement, people with a fascist or socialist viewpoint would not. All that they would care about is that the person is a useful producer. It’s a catch-22 for conservatives in power. Uneducated masses are much easier to manipulate and therefore by leaving them relatively uneducated, you increase your power.

    The point made by Mr. Serrazin is less about the government’s inability to integrate Muslims than about their systemic unwillingness to integrate. I tend to believe that the Muslim community would continue to be reticent to integrate no matter what incentives the government may offer them.

    As an example, the United States has little enclaves of Muslims in various places, and many want nothing to do with the American way of life. Some have gone so far as to honor kill members of their community who enjoy it too much.

    Mr. Serrazin is simply pointing out this obvious issue within the Muslim community, and for doing so was called “racist!” I posit that the true racists are the ones who are happy to leave them as non-integrated lesser members of the community.

  • Since I’m the only person here who lives in Germany, let me add my 2c again. If, as some people have said in the press here, that Sarrazin is claiming that Moslem immigrants are genetically inferior, then I would disagree with that. I see it as a problem of culture, not genetics. 80% of Germany’s immigrants come from rural parts of Turkey. Many of these people could not integrate into Istanbul. Who thinks that someone who is illiterate, or semi-literate will be able to find their place in a Western society where homosexuality is widely accepted and women have much more independence? Indeed, the entire value structure is completely different from what they find acceptable.

    I’ve had the wonderful experience of living in several different countries. In each one, when people talk about the problems of integrating immigrants, the only group they wind up talking about come from Moslem countries. In France, they talk about Northern Africans, though they never claim that Jews from these countries failed to immigrate. In Britain, they say Asian, but of course they are not talking about Hindus from India; they are talking about Pakistani, and of course, Indian Moslems.

    This is a debate that the West needs to have. It should not revolve around genetics, but we should be talking about culture. Why can genetically identical religious groups in Britain have such different abilities to integrate?

  • Erwin Mahnke says:

    I started to read the book and am half through now. It is a very well substantiated, very deep analysis of facts and figures, mostly public statistical material, regarding the German education system, demographics, immigration. Sarrazin draws conclusions and describes scenarios. There are a few statements, which can be discussed if they are just true or on the edge of being racist, but Sarrazin himself for sure is not racist.

    The genetic or biologistic argument is blown up to hold it against Sarrazin by those guilty of the current situation in Germany. It is the token to prevent discussion on the rest of the book.

    The immigration debate is one thing, there are a few other aspects equally important in the current turmoil. The whole thing really is the topic of the moment. TV and newspapers are full with related stories, talk shows etc.

    The most important aspect of all is the widening divide between the political elites and the population. The people are fed up with their politicians and the media and they just wake up to realize what the elites are doing to them. This is connected with the growing feeling of political misrepresentation through a party system were you have only left parties (five of them) and any conservative or patriotic feelings are suppressed and pushed into a Nazi corner.

    Another aspect is the arrogance of the ruling politicians, with which they disrespect the laws and the welfare of the German population. Even without reading the book Chancellor Merkel criticized it and stated, Sarrazin cannot serve as vice president at the central bank. The newly elected German President Wulff later equally called for Sarrazin’s release, although he is the very one who is meant to neutrally decide on the request from the Bundesbank. Next, the board of the central bank decides on Sarrazin’s demission. Merkel calls this “independent decision” a positive move which “deserves respect”. Meanwhile, the President heard about the rage and fury in the population and pushes the ball back to the government, who is now to “make an assessment”.The people are outraged about the dishonesty and disregard for democratic procedures. And the best: legally, there are no grounds whatsoever to release Sarrazin from his job.

    There are a few other aspects such as growing immigrant violence, failure of the legal system to curb immigrant crimes by treating them with velvet gloves, the islamization of the society and others, but what I wanted is to move the attention away from this stupid genetic discussion. This is not the core, neither of the book, nor of Sarrazin’s statements, nor of why 90% of the German population is behind Sarrazin.

    He is our hero to break the green-left stranglehold on the democracy. He can even be the catalyst to a full-fledged revolution, although it is not clear to me where that would end and who would be the drivers.

    Gerald Celente of Trend Research International forecasted that Europe would start in 2012 to expel muslim immigrants. I didn’t think Germany would be at the forefront of this, but a sincere and open immigration debate can have only this outcome.

  • Erwin Mahnke says:

    Today, Rene Stadkewitz, a former member of the “conservative” (semi-left) CDU, which is the one of Chancellor Merkel, was excluded from the parliamentary group (“fraction”) of CDU MPs in the Berlin parliament for “daring” to invite Geert Wilders to Berlin.

    Stadkewitz had left the party last year in protest of the CDU’s support for the islamophile policies in Berlin. Initially, he had left also the group of MPs but was persuaded to stay (they probably needed his vote).

    So much about the state of democracy in Germany and the freedom of speech.

  • mjazz says:

    The West should encourage the immigration of Middle Eastern Christians. They face discrimination in their own countries and most of them would start businesses and otherwise stimulate the economy when they got here.

  • Erwin Mahnke says:

    The Bundesbank today retracted their claim of Sarrazin’s racist statements, revoked their request to release Sarrazin from the board, and accepted his own request for dismissal. President Wulff immediately accepted.

    What is a most obvious deal to save the President’s and the Chancellor’s necks, ends a fortnight of hyperventilating politicians and never-ending falsification of Sarrazin’s statements.

    It is a pity, but Sarrazin believes that he can have more influence on German policies as a private book author than a notorious central banker. He gives way and hopes that the political establishment is now ending its pressure on him.

    My personal oppinion: a big mistake by Sarrazin, who will soon be out of sight and out of the politicians’ mind.

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